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Cumulus Rain problems
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Re: Cumulus Rain problems
Could you please install this new build (636):
http://www.nybbles.co.uk/downloads/beta ... sSetup.exe
and turn on the debug log each time you start.
Thanks,
Steve
http://www.nybbles.co.uk/downloads/beta ... sSetup.exe
and turn on the debug log each time you start.
Thanks,
Steve
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Re: Cumulus Rain problems
OK Steve, Thank you for the Download just downloading now and will install it now.steve wrote:Could you please install this new build (636):
http://www.nybbles.co.uk/downloads/beta ... sSetup.exe
and turn on the debug log each time you start.
Thanks,
Steve
Mike
OS : Windows 11 Professional
Weather Station : Davis Vantage PRO2 Plus Daytime Far's
Cumulus MX v.3.28.6 build 3283
https://branksomeweather.co.uk/index.htm
OS : Windows 11 Professional
Weather Station : Davis Vantage PRO2 Plus Daytime Far's
Cumulus MX v.3.28.6 build 3283
https://branksomeweather.co.uk/index.htm
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Re: Cumulus Rain problems
New Build installed and Debug log ticked
Mike
OS : Windows 11 Professional
Weather Station : Davis Vantage PRO2 Plus Daytime Far's
Cumulus MX v.3.28.6 build 3283
https://branksomeweather.co.uk/index.htm
OS : Windows 11 Professional
Weather Station : Davis Vantage PRO2 Plus Daytime Far's
Cumulus MX v.3.28.6 build 3283
https://branksomeweather.co.uk/index.htm
- steve
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Re: Cumulus Rain problems
As soon as you see the bogus rain rate, send me the debug.log file, please. Well, actually, wait at least 5 minutes, it doesn't get flushed to disk immediately.
Steve
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Re: Cumulus Rain problems
Hi Steve,steve wrote:As soon as you see the bogus rain rate, send me the debug.log file, please. Well, actually, wait at least 5 minutes, it doesn't get flushed to disk immediately.
Steve
I noticed the bogus rain rate, just after I started up the new version here is the debug.log I hope it is useful and you can see what is going on for me.
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Mike
OS : Windows 11 Professional
Weather Station : Davis Vantage PRO2 Plus Daytime Far's
Cumulus MX v.3.28.6 build 3283
https://branksomeweather.co.uk/index.htm
OS : Windows 11 Professional
Weather Station : Davis Vantage PRO2 Plus Daytime Far's
Cumulus MX v.3.28.6 build 3283
https://branksomeweather.co.uk/index.htm
- steve
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Re: Cumulus Rain problems
It's very odd. It is a rounding error, of sorts, but I'm wondering if it's actually a bug in Delphi or your CPU even. Out of interest, what sort of CPU do you have?
It's subtracting 3.33070850372314 from 3.33070850372314 (yes, the same number), and getting 0.00070850372314 (approx), as if the first number had been rounding to 3.33. Now I know all about the problems of floating point arithmetic etc, but I don't see how that one works at all. It did the same calculation a couple of minutes earlier and got zero.
Steve
It's subtracting 3.33070850372314 from 3.33070850372314 (yes, the same number), and getting 0.00070850372314 (approx), as if the first number had been rounding to 3.33. Now I know all about the problems of floating point arithmetic etc, but I don't see how that one works at all. It did the same calculation a couple of minutes earlier and got zero.
Steve
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Re: Cumulus Rain problems
HI Steve, Thanks for coming back to me yes, it does look very strange, the CPU is a AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+ and it is a One Core Processor.steve wrote:It's very odd. It is a rounding error, of sorts, but I'm wondering if it's actually a bug in Delphi or your CPU even. Out of interest, what sort of CPU do you have?
It's subtracting 3.33070850372314 from 3.33070850372314 (yes, the same number), and getting 0.00070850372314 (approx), as if the first number had been rounding to 3.33. Now I know all about the problems of floating point arithmetic etc, but I don't see how that one works at all. It did the same calculation a couple of minutes earlier and got zero.
Steve
Mike
OS : Windows 11 Professional
Weather Station : Davis Vantage PRO2 Plus Daytime Far's
Cumulus MX v.3.28.6 build 3283
https://branksomeweather.co.uk/index.htm
OS : Windows 11 Professional
Weather Station : Davis Vantage PRO2 Plus Daytime Far's
Cumulus MX v.3.28.6 build 3283
https://branksomeweather.co.uk/index.htm
- steve
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Re: Cumulus Rain problems
There's a bug in my debugging code - I was actually printing the same variable twice. So I guess that the first value really was rounded to 3.33, but I don't know what's doing that. Does this always happen just after starting Cumulus?
Steve
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Re: Cumulus Rain problems
Yes just after starting Cumulus.steve wrote:There's a bug in my debugging code - I was actually printing the same variable twice. So I guess that the first value really was rounded to 3.33, but I don't know what's doing that. Does this always happen just after starting Cumulus?
Steve
Mike
OS : Windows 11 Professional
Weather Station : Davis Vantage PRO2 Plus Daytime Far's
Cumulus MX v.3.28.6 build 3283
https://branksomeweather.co.uk/index.htm
OS : Windows 11 Professional
Weather Station : Davis Vantage PRO2 Plus Daytime Far's
Cumulus MX v.3.28.6 build 3283
https://branksomeweather.co.uk/index.htm
- steve
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Re: Cumulus Rain problems
OK- got it. It think it happens when you stop and start up again within a few minutes, so the data that initialises the array that's used to calculate the rain rate comes from the log file, where of course it has been rounded. Fix on the way...
It might have been a bit easier to track down knowing that it always happens just after startup
Steve
It might have been a bit easier to track down knowing that it always happens just after startup
Steve
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Re: Cumulus Rain problems
Yes Sorry about that Steve, I was not sure if it was happening after startup or not but it looks as if it is doing it just after start up. I have just had a look at the rain graph and it looks very stange indeed here it is Now it has got 0.04 in/hr at 15:21 on the first pagesteve wrote:OK- got it. It think it happens when you stop and start up again within a few minutes, so the data that initialises the array that's used to calculate the rain rate comes from the log file, where of course it has been rounded. Fix on the way...
It might have been a bit easier to track down knowing that it always happens just after startup
Steve
I will look forward to the update, many thanks for you help in solving the problem, hopefully it will solve it.
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Mike
OS : Windows 11 Professional
Weather Station : Davis Vantage PRO2 Plus Daytime Far's
Cumulus MX v.3.28.6 build 3283
https://branksomeweather.co.uk/index.htm
OS : Windows 11 Professional
Weather Station : Davis Vantage PRO2 Plus Daytime Far's
Cumulus MX v.3.28.6 build 3283
https://branksomeweather.co.uk/index.htm
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Re: Cumulus Rain problems
The latest 1.8.5 beta uploaded earlier today should fix this.
Steve
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Re: Cumulus Rain problems
Thank you Steve, for the Software update, I will let you know how I get on with it.steve wrote:The latest 1.8.5 beta uploaded earlier today should fix this.
Steve
Many Thanks for your help so fare.
Mike
OS : Windows 11 Professional
Weather Station : Davis Vantage PRO2 Plus Daytime Far's
Cumulus MX v.3.28.6 build 3283
https://branksomeweather.co.uk/index.htm
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Weather Station : Davis Vantage PRO2 Plus Daytime Far's
Cumulus MX v.3.28.6 build 3283
https://branksomeweather.co.uk/index.htm
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Re: Cumulus Rain problems
Hi Steve,
I have used the new update you gave me, and I am not having any more problems now. I have tested it for quite a few days.
Many Thanks for your help fixing it for me.
Mike
I have used the new update you gave me, and I am not having any more problems now. I have tested it for quite a few days.
Many Thanks for your help fixing it for me.
Mike
Mike
OS : Windows 11 Professional
Weather Station : Davis Vantage PRO2 Plus Daytime Far's
Cumulus MX v.3.28.6 build 3283
https://branksomeweather.co.uk/index.htm
OS : Windows 11 Professional
Weather Station : Davis Vantage PRO2 Plus Daytime Far's
Cumulus MX v.3.28.6 build 3283
https://branksomeweather.co.uk/index.htm