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Hi all

I am pulling together a number of articles in the Wiki on Cumulus webpages, from the simple standard setup to customised sites. We get lots of questions on the forum on how to setup web pages, so the Wiki articles will be a useful place to point to. Any help appreciated.
http://wiki.sandaysoft.com/index.php?ti ... site_setup

However, I also need to complete a few pages with info which you can quickly help with. Specifically....

What FTP tool do you use?
http://wiki.sandaysoft.com/index.php?title=FTP_tools


What hosting provider are you with (Free or Commercial)? Do you know one that does not work?
http://wiki.sandaysoft.com/index.php?title=Webspace

Please feel free to update the Wiki directly, or reply here and I will add

Knowledge is power! :)

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WS_FTP95 as the name suggests this is pretty old but a great little tool for FTPing
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I mostly use FileZilla. I have WS_FTP but find FileZilla is more powerful.

My site is hosted by uklinux.net, but I wouldn't particularly advocate them for a newbie - they don't offer any support and can be hit and miss about renewing domans and invoicing. It's pure sloth that I haven't changed from them.

WRT the Wiki, I can only find stuff in it by searching. It doesn't seem to have a conventional index.

One thing not mentioned so far in the pages seems to be configuring the Internet options, in conjunction with what FileZilla shows - that stymied me to start with. And since Steve knew the answer straight off, I'm sure I'm not the only person that has struggled with it.
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cats_five wrote:I mostly use FileZilla. I have WS_FTP but find FileZilla is more powerful.
... can be hit and miss about renewing domans and invoicing.
You should always be in control of your own domains unless you have a support contract with someone.... Set your domain up for auto-renewal so that when it expires it renews automatically on its own. I've seen a lot of sites lose their domains because they were not setup properly including a couple Weather forums.

This can be done with most registrars... I use Godaddy for most of the domains that I manage (provide domain support for hundreds of clients).
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cats_five wrote:WRT the Wiki, I can only find stuff in it by searching. It doesn't seem to have a conventional index.
Want to write one? ;)

Wiki's are more search based, but of course they can have an index (but it needs to be written). I've been building the front page based on every article that is added, at least as a starting point. I do agree it all needs to be more menu/index driven but finding time is not easy.
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RCE wrote:WS_FTP95 as the name suggests this is pretty old but a great little tool for FTPing
Hey I use that one too, like you say a great tool for the job. :D
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daj wrote:Wiki's are more search based, but of course they can have an index (but it needs to be written). I've been building the front page based on every article that is added, at least as a starting point. I do agree it all needs to be more menu/index driven but finding time is not easy.
Would this be solved/helped by each page having a category? Then the category list thing that I've seen on some other wikis gives you a sort of index. Unfortunately I haven't yet got to the stage where I feel I really know what I'm doing when I go to edit the wiki, so I may be talking rubbish.
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steve wrote:Would this be solved/helped by each page having a category? ....
Yes -- I think so. I started Categorising the log files and language pages as I was writing them

example

http://wiki.sandaysoft.com/index.php?ti ... ulus_Files

So it may be the way to go
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Having each page in a category would help so long as there was an easy-to-find list of categories! (of course there might be some disagreement which category some pages should be in...)

An index would help, but building it means having a list of all pages in the Wiki. In fact having an obvious link on the home page to 'all pages' would be a big help. I suspect there is a lot of very useful stuff there that is simply very obscure.

PS can a page be in more than one category?
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cats_five wrote:PS can a page be in more than one category?
Wikipedia articles have multiple categories, so the answer must be "yes". But it probably needs keeping simple, you don't want to be creating more work for yourself than is necessary.
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What FTP tool do you use?


"cmd"
What else do you need. But then again I'm a UNIX admin - I'm allergic to GUI's! ;)


What hosting provider are you with (Free or Commercial)? Do you know one that does not work?

ozemail.com.au - now a part of iinet in Australia. All works perfectly.
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hills wrote:
What FTP tool do you use?

"cmd"
What else do you need. But then again I'm a UNIX admin - I'm allergic to GUI's! ;)
;)

From a old time Unix Admin perspective...

"cmd" is windows....

A unix admin would use ftp. A modern unix admin would use scp/sftp or at least ftps and not use plain text ftp.

A Systems Analyst would use the best tool for the project and not care if it was Unix/Linux/Windows or Mac... as long as it was secure and encrypted.

I entered in the various tools, and hosting systems that I have had experience with on the wiki itself.
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TNETWeather wrote:I entered in the various tools, and hosting systems that I have had experience with on the wiki itself.
Thanks for that Kevin
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Daj,

Can the wiki be configured to use cleanURL's?

So that entries would be like:

Code: Select all

http://wiki.sandaysoft.com/FTP_tools
Instead of

Code: Select all

http://wiki.sandaysoft.com/index.php?title=FTP_tools
Makes the links easier to use without the extra index.php?title= stuff...

On several of the Wiki's that I've played with, you could do that with some rewritting in .htaccess and a switch in the wiki configuration itself.
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FTP tool: Filezilla
Host: http://www.DomainDirect.dk: free Webhotel (1GB disk space)
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