I was doing some research into Windchill and Heat index for my own education, and in the process I wrote a small summary of each on the Wiki.
http://wiki.sandaysoft.com/index.php?title=Wind_chill
One of the things which I find in several places I have read is that Windchill is only calculated at temperatures below 10C (50F).
I note that Cumulus is today reporting my Outside temp as 13.4 and Windchill as 13.2.
Just to be clear, Cumulus calculates my Windchill as my station can not.
What are other peoples thoughts on Windchill and when it should be calculated?
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Windchill
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Re: Windchill
Cumulus has an ini-file option ("UseWindChillCutoff=1" in the [Station] section) which does this (i.e. stops the wind chill calculation above 10C).
One day I really will find time to document the undocumented ini-file options!
One day I really will find time to document the undocumented ini-file options!
Steve
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Re: Windchill
thanks --- It wasn't a criticism of Cumulus; more that I wanted to understand Windchill.
useful tip however
useful tip however
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Re: Windchill
Yes, understood, it was just my contribution to the discussion
I know that wind chill calculation is a controversial area, and that there is/has been more than one 'official' formula. I have a feeling that both the 'old' and 'new' formulae are lurking in Cumulus and I should really rationalise it.
I know that wind chill calculation is a controversial area, and that there is/has been more than one 'official' formula. I have a feeling that both the 'old' and 'new' formulae are lurking in Cumulus and I should really rationalise it.
Steve
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Re: Windchill
Long time lurker, first time poster
I've been looking at this stuff for a while now, and finally bought a weatherstation just before christmas... for my Dad... but hey, its still one I can access and tinker with...
Because I wanted to incorporate specific information into his existing website, and in his specific format, I was using some PHP code (its a Drupal CMS site) to borrow readings from the realtime.txt file (more on that in the homebrew section later)... but couldn't positively identify the windchill reading in that file... so I started researching it to calculate it within the page itself from wind speed and temperature and found the following:
- 42oC to +4.4oC & wind speeds between 5 and 100 km/hr
It came from this page:
http://home.iprimus.com.au/foo7/windchill.html
And was the only "metric" version I could find. It also has an interesting historical account of windchill.
regards
Steve
I've been looking at this stuff for a while now, and finally bought a weatherstation just before christmas... for my Dad... but hey, its still one I can access and tinker with...
Because I wanted to incorporate specific information into his existing website, and in his specific format, I was using some PHP code (its a Drupal CMS site) to borrow readings from the realtime.txt file (more on that in the homebrew section later)... but couldn't positively identify the windchill reading in that file... so I started researching it to calculate it within the page itself from wind speed and temperature and found the following:
- 42oC to +4.4oC & wind speeds between 5 and 100 km/hr
It came from this page:
http://home.iprimus.com.au/foo7/windchill.html
And was the only "metric" version I could find. It also has an interesting historical account of windchill.
regards
Steve
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Re: Windchill
For anyone interested, I found, at the very least, the following two links to Environment Canada:
http://www.pnr-rpn.ec.gc.ca/air/winters ... ll.en.html
http://www.msc-smc.ec.gc.ca/education/w ... g_10_e.cfm
And if someone want to calculate the wind chill at his/her station, here is it is done:
WC (metric) = 13.12 + 0.6215 * Tair - 11.37 * V 0.16 + 0.3965 * Tair * V 0.16
-- where Tair = air temperature (C), V = wind (km/h)
WC (imperial) = 35.74 + 0.6215 * Tair - 35.75 * V 0.16 + 0.4275 * Tair * V 0.16
-- where Tair = air temperature (F), V = wind (mph)
Those formulas and more information is also available on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_chill
http://www.pnr-rpn.ec.gc.ca/air/winters ... ll.en.html
http://www.msc-smc.ec.gc.ca/education/w ... g_10_e.cfm
And if someone want to calculate the wind chill at his/her station, here is it is done:
WC (metric) = 13.12 + 0.6215 * Tair - 11.37 * V 0.16 + 0.3965 * Tair * V 0.16
-- where Tair = air temperature (C), V = wind (km/h)
WC (imperial) = 35.74 + 0.6215 * Tair - 35.75 * V 0.16 + 0.4275 * Tair * V 0.16
-- where Tair = air temperature (F), V = wind (mph)
Those formulas and more information is also available on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_chill
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Re: Windchill
From Cumulus help
log files / realtime.txt
....
24 57 inside humidity
25 3.6 wind chill
26 -0.7 temperature trend value
...
'Field' 25 is array[24]
log files / realtime.txt
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24 57 inside humidity
25 3.6 wind chill
26 -0.7 temperature trend value
...
'Field' 25 is array[24]
......................Imagine, what you will KNOW tomorrow !
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Re: Windchill
Hi Kiwi Steve and welcome to the forum
The Wiki is your friend
http://wiki.sandaysoft.com/index.php?title=Realtime.txt
The Wiki is your friend
http://wiki.sandaysoft.com/index.php?title=Realtime.txt
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Re: Windchill
Its funny how much work I could have saved myself by simply reading the instructions
Still, I learnt a bit doing it the hard way... and I'll post what I have done over in the homebuilt section so others can tinker with it if they like...
Steve
Still, I learnt a bit doing it the hard way... and I'll post what I have done over in the homebuilt section so others can tinker with it if they like...
Steve
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